Saturday, August 20, 2016

What we may know: mid preseason form

It's been nearly 2 full days since the Vikings took the field in Seattle and while there is much we don't know from the team's practices, I think now is a good time to try to figure out what we can be most certain about as far as the team goes.

If you want to look back at what stuck out to me from games one and two click the links.

But as a bit of a recap, the roster at the end of last year looked like this:

Quarterbacks
  • Teddy Bridgewater
  • Taylor Heinicke
  • Shaun Hill
Running backs
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Jerick McKinnon
  • Matt Asiata
  • Zach Line
Wide receivers
  • Stefon Diggs
  • Charles Johnson
  • Cordarrelle Patterson
  • Adam Thielen
  • Mike Wallace
  • Jarius Wright
Tight ends
  • MyCole Pruitt
  • Kyle Rudolph



From Wiki
Offensive line
  • Joe Berger
  • T. J. Clemmings
  • Nick Easton
  • Brandon Fusco
  • Mike Harris
  • Matt Kalil
  • Zac Kerin
  • Austin Shepherd
  • Jeremiah Sirles 
Defensive tackles
  • B. J. Dubs
  • Kenrick Ellis
  • Sharrif Floyd
  • Tom Johnson
  • Linval Joseph
Defensive ends
  • Everson Griffen
  • Danielle Hunter
  • Zach Moore
  • Brian Robison
  • Justin Trattou
Linebackers
  • Anthony Barr
  • Chad Greenway
  • Eric Kendricks
  • Edmond Robinson
  • Jason Trusnik
  • Brandon Watts
Safeties
  • Robert Blanton
  • Anthony Harris
  • Andrew Sendejo
  • Harrison Smith
Cornerbacks
  • Captain Munnerlyn
  • Terence Newman
  • Xavier Rhodes
  • Josh Robinson
  • Marcus Sherels
  • Trae Waynes
Special teams
  • Jeff Locke P
  • Kevin McDermott LS
  • Blair Walsh K
Injured Reserve
  • Carter Bykowski OT
  • Audie Cole MLB
  • Scott Crichton DE
  • Rhett Ellison TE
  • Antone Exum FS
  • Phil Loadholt OT
  • Casey Matthews MLB 
  • Jabari Price CB
  • Shamar Stephen DT
  • John Sullivan C
Practice squad
  • Isame Faciane G
  • Isaac Fruechte WR
  • Toby Johnson DT
  • Dominique Jones TE
  • Johnny Lowdermilk SS
  • Terrance Plummer MLB
  • Blake Renaud FB
  • Alex Singleton OLB
  • Dominique Williams RB
  • David Yankey G

The roster at present looks like this:

Active

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE
62Easton, NickC6-3303242Harvard
67Kerin, ZacC6-5305252Toledo
65Sullivan, JohnC6-4310319Notre Dame
20Alexander, MackensieCB5-10192220Clemson
24Munnerlyn, CaptainCB5-9195288South Carolina
23Newman, TerenceCB5-101973714Kansas State
25Price, JabariCB5-11200233North Carolina
29Rhodes, XavierCB6-1218264Florida State
36Roberson, TreCB6-0200230Illinois State
35Sherels, MarcusCB5-10175286Minnesota
26Waynes, TraeCB6-0190242Michigan State
31White, MelvinDB6-2215263Louisiana-Lafayette
97Griffen, EversonDE6-3273287USC
99Hunter, DanielleDE6-5252212LSU
91Moore, ZachDE6-6290253Concordia-St. Paul
62Perine, DenzellDE6-2250230Florida International
96Robison, BrianDE6-32593310Texas
94Trattou, JustinDE6-4258275Florida
64Weatherly, StephenDE6-5265220Vanderbilt
67Cockran, TheirenDT6-5260230Minnesota
95Crichton, ScottDT6-3273243Oregon St.
72Ellis, KenrickDT6-5335286Hampton
73Floyd, SharrifDT6-3311254Florida
69Johnson, TobyDT6-4325241Georgia
92Johnson, TomDT6-3288316Southern Mississippi
98Joseph, LinvalDT6-4329277East Carolina
74Louis, ClaudellDT6-40250Fresno State
60Raciti, TravisDT6-4305241San Jose State
93Stephen, ShamarDT6-5310253UCONN
48Line, ZachFB6-1233264SMU
49Renaud, BlakeFB6-1252231Boise State
33Griffin, MichaelFS6-02153110Texas
78Sirles, JeremiahG / T6-6315253Nebraska
61Berger, JoeG6-53053412Michigan Tech
76Boone, AlexG6-8310297Ohio State
69Faciane, IsameG6-4302252Florida International
63Fusco, BrandonG6-4306266Slippery Rock
66Hickey, SeanG6-6306241Syracuse
3Walsh, BlairK5-10170265Georgia
55Barr, AnthonyLB6-5255243UCLA
57Cole, AudieLB6-5248275North Carolina St.
56Ganus, Jake LB6-2233220Georgia
52Greenway, ChadLB6-32373311Iowa
54Kendricks, EricLB6-0232242UCLA
50Plummer, TerranceLB6-1243232Central Florida
51Robinson, EdmondLB6-3245242Newberry
58Watts, BrandonLB6-2231253Georgia Tech
47McDermott, KevinLS6-5240264UCLA
68Clemmings, T.J.OL6-5309242Pittsburgh
74Shepherd, AustinOL6-4327242Alabama
40Brothers, KentrellOLB6-1242230Missouri
59Lamur, EmmanuelOLB6-4245275Kansas State
18Locke, JeffP6-0195264UCLA
5Bridgewater, TeddyQB6-2215233Louisville
13Hill, ShaunQB6-32303615Maryland
4Sorensen, BradQB6-5229283Southern Utah
2Stave, JoelQB6-5230240Wisconsin
44Asiata, MattRB6-0219295Utah
30Ham, C.J.RB5-11235230Augustana
21McKinnon, JerickRB5-9205243Georgia Southern
28Peterson, AdrianRB6-12203110Oklahoma
42Pressley, JhurellRB5-10206240New Mexico
32Exum Jr., AntoneS6-0219253Virginia Tech
41Harris, AnthonyS6-1192242Virginia
27Kearse, JayronS6-4215220Clemson
34Sendejo, AndrewS6-1210286Rice
22Smith, HarrisonS6-2214275Notre Dame
64Beavers, WillieT6-5322220Western Michigan
60Bykowski, CarterT6-7313263Iowa State
75Kalil, MattT6-7317275USC
71Smith, AndreT6-4325298Alabama
86Carter, KyleTE6-3245230Penn State
87Leonhardt, BrianTE6-5255263Bemidji State
89Morgan, DavidTE6-4265230Texas San Antonio
83Pruitt, MycoleTE6-2258242Southern Illinois
82Rudolph, KyleTE6-6265266Notre Dame
81Böhringer, MoritzWR6-4225220Germany
14Diggs, StefonWR6-0191222Maryland
15Fruechte, IsaacWR6-3210252Minnesota
12Johnson, CharlesWR6-2217274Grand Valley State
9Michel, MarkenWR5-11191230UMass
84Patterson, CordarrelleWR6-2220254Tennessee
16Sinkfield, TerrellWR6-1200251Northern Iowa
1Stoudermire, TroyWR5-10195260Minnesota
19Thielen, AdamWR6-2200253Minnesota State
11Treadwell, LaquonWR6-2215210Ole Miss
17Wright, JariusWR5-10191265Arkansas

Reserve/Injured

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE
90Dubose, B.J.DE6-4284241Louisville

Active/Non-Football Illness

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE
79Harris, MikeG6-5338275UCLA

Active/Non-Football Injury

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE
6Heinicke, TaylorQB6-1210232Old Dominion

Active/Physically Unable to Perform

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE
85Ellison, RhettTE6-5250275USC
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Okay, so if you've come this far, then I suspect you will come a little further but if not, thanks for reading!
There's quite a bit of overlap, as is expected with a division champion team, but I think there will still be several new faces on the 53 and practice squad. It feels a little safe to predict 8 new players will be on 53, considering that more then that number were brought in, but finding that many or more holes to fill is a challenge.

But that is my prediction and I'm going to go with it.

I'll start with the most locked in players and mention a bunch of the rest after.

Quarterback
  • Teddy Bridgewater
Shaun got nearly an entire half of PT because the coaches wanted to see what he had and that comes on the heels of them kicking the tires on Nick Foles. Hill's spot on this team is not a lock at this point, nor should it be if they can find a superior back up. It may not happen this season but I think that Heinicke is still primed to be the long term back up here. It's entirely possible that they will ride with Hill until Heinicke is able to perform then run with the two young guys. As it is right now, Teddy is the only one I can consider a lock. 

Running Back
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Jerick McKinnon
  • Zach Line
Asiata has been a fine member of the team when called upon and don't think he will get leap frogged by anyone on the team but with a tight roster, a forth running back is a luxury that shouldn't be considered a lock at this point. 

Wide Receiver
  • Stefon Diggs
  • Laquon Treadwell
  • Adam Thielen
  • Charles Johnson
  • Jarius Wright
This may be the most questionable listing of the whole break down. I've held the opinion that Patterson isn't going to make it this year for some time. There's no doubting his ability as a returner but like I said with Asiata, every roster spot is valuable. Keeping another specialist is just a cost that isn't worth paying. We live in a world where Antonio Brown is still a returner so cut Flash and let Wright or Diggs take over on Kick-offs. 

Tight End
  • Kyle Rudolph
  • MyCole Pruitt
  • David Morgan
Shortly after the draft, I heard about Morgan's blocking ability and the consideration that he is Ellison insurance. I think that is still a very valid opinion to have. I'm not sure both him and Line will make the team, especially if Ellison makes progress and is able to play after the PUP list. For now I'm going to consider both Morgan and Line as locks for the roster though because blocking is vital.

Offensive Line
  • Matt Kalil
  • Alex Boone
  • Joe Berger
  • Brandon Fusco
  • John Sullivan
  • Zac Kerin/Nick Easton
  • TJ Clemmings
  • Andre Smith
I'm reticent of the fact that Andre Smith is on a little bit of a bubble after the first game but I don't know if the team would benefit from cutting him, even if he proves to not be starter quality. I don't see the practices so I would definite bow to the braintrust if they do kick him. Berger is listed as a Guard but did well as a Center last year. Regardless of that, I think he'll be kept on as a swing man with Sully and either Kerin or Easton being his specific back up. It's a bit strange because I think that Berger would jump into the Center spot again if Sullivan gets hurt even if one of those two is kept around.
So that's 8 spots and I don't see the O - line taking up more then 10 spots, with nine being realistic again this year. That leaves as many as four guys fighting it out for the last spot.


Okay, so take a break right now if you need to. We'll get to the defense in a second


Cornerbacks
  • Xavier Rhodes
  • Trae Waynes
  • Terence Newman
  • Mackensie Alexander
  • Marcus Sherels
It feels good to think that Sherels can be legitimately considered a lock. Sure his coverage skills are not top end but he's still one of the best punt returners there is and as he showed on Thursday, he has some special skills.
I would like to be able to consider Captain a lock because he made good improvement last season and I don't think he'll get cut, but with the high drafting of Mac I can't bring myself to consider Cap a lock right now. 

Safety
  • Harrison Smith
  • Andrew Sendejo
This a little depressing on the surface. I don't dislike Sendejo but wish there was another guy or two that could be considered a lock right now. Michael Griffen is probably the closest but as with so many others, it will come down to the final numbers.
Exum, Harris and Kearse all have their positive attributes and each one are still young players in this league but there's no way that six Safeties are kept around. Kearse may be practice squad bound, but hopefully if that happens Rick and Co. are sure he won't get plucked. I would give a slight edge to Harris, but that's just a gut feeling.

Linebackers
  • Anthony Barr
  • Eric Kendricks
  • Emmanuel Lamur
  • Edmond Robinson
Let me begin by saying that I think Chad Greenway is likely a lock but again - numbers. If they keep six LBs again this season that would all but assure Greenway closing out his career here. Five would make it more dicey because I don't think Brothers would make it to the practice squad. 

Defensive Ends
  • Everson Griffen
  • Danielle Hunter
  • Brian Robison
There was plenty of speculation about Robison not being in the mix this year but since he is I don't see him being cut, especially with his versatility. Another gut feeling is that they will only keep four ends this year but I haven't seen the other four perform too much so maybe more then one deserves to be in the mix.

Defensive Tackles
  • Linval Joseph
  • Sharrif Floyd
  • Tom Johnson
  • Shamar Stephen
I would put Ellis or Crichton as the favorites of the rest, depending on how many are retained, but this is maybe the easiest of all the groups on the defensive side. 

Special Teams
  • Blair Walsh
  • Kevin McDermott
  • Punter to be added later
I still want Locke replaced. Anybody with me? ? ? You're out there, I know you are. 

So that's the 41 guys that I think are locks at this point. A bunch of practices and the two remaining games will go a long way in determining who fills out the roster.

What I neglected to mention was the special teams coverage units. Because I have no idea how that will shake out. No doubt some of the guys that I glossed over will be able to make the team because of their performance on ST but yeah I don't know who they will be. So I'm just going to leave it at the 41.

It seems as though my prediction of 8 new faces on the 53 may be well short of reality. That's maybe the most interesting thing that I've gleaned from this little exercise.

If you read this far, thank you! You are most definitely as into the Vikings as I am and I would like to hear what you think, both positive and negative, about this post and the Vikings potential roster as it is this Saturday afternoon. 

1 comment:

  1. I have to agree with your evaluation of Patterson although the "new and improved" CP84 did match last year's catch total with two in Thursdays preseason game. I'll add a few names to your list. Kearse & Exum (S), Cole, Brothers & Greenway (LB), Hill & Stave (QB), Cap (CB), Ellis (DT) ...go Vikes!!!

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